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welcome to the jock doc podcast
featuring dr. London Smith he’s buff
he’s tough and he knows his stuff
introducing your host dr. London Smith
hello and welcome to jock doc
where we discuss fitness and health and
how to incorporate our modern
understanding of science and medicine
into our daily lives but without it
being so boring
I’m your host dr. London smith.com to
our dismay we have received some
complaints from our listeners about how
I need to stop using complicated medical
terms like ankle and heartbeat so I will
try to refrain from such difficult
terminology in the future so that all of
our listeners can keep learning from the
knowledge we try to share here at jock
dock here to help me with that is our
producer Cameron

-and I do have a note
already dr. London okay I don’t think
people have an issue with you saying the
word heart beat but if you could just
make the sound after you say it so
people have an understanding of what
you’re even trying to talk about I think
that would be a lot more helpful I think
that’s the big issue I think if you just
say Oh heart beat
oh he’s got a heart beat I’ve got a
heart beat who doesn’t have a heartbeat
that’s where people get confusing so
they say oh here’s a heart beat okay
hard people alright so that the way
we’re taught is it’s lub dub is sort of
the sound of it whoa that’s a nice bass
string but it’s more of an lub dub lub
dub and then there are different heart
sounds for if you have different
pathologies going on but okay well thank
you for the note I don’t know if I’ll
necessarily remember to stop every time
I say heartbeat lub dub my makes more
like a crunchy sound does that make
sense it if you have like if a normal
heartbeat is which it is not boom boom –
more like
well that’s that’s something worth
checking when you say your heartbeat are
you listening to it with a stethoscope
or I don’t know what that is what we’ve
discussed before that I have no idea
what that is
oh what a stethoscope is right and no
one’s told me well so that’s what a
heartbeat should sound like okay well in
any case and that’s where you know life
starts okay well here to help me with
introducing these topics is a Cameron so
while I remain sometimes to mentally
entrenched in science and medicine
Cameron remains informed about everyday
matters and what most people want to
hear so you can expect him to pop in on
rare occasion to gently offer a guiding
hand as he increases the the podcasts
appeal also with us today is digital the
house and Cameron tells me that we may
have another guest on the show a little
later we sure do
alright so we have that to look forward
to as well so I would like to briefly
address some listener feedback quote
these leak now my third bag has leaked
while defrosting and quote
so before I address the question itself
I would like to say thank you so much
for your input hearing back from our
listeners is what makes all of us at
Jacque talk enjoy what we do so an
answer to that note I do not believe
that we have been selling any bags of
any kind much less the carrot I mean we
definitely have or you say we let Jacque
dog the podcast we’ve sold a lot of bags
and do they leak I don’t know I didn’t
try them out what what I’ll get high on
your own supply what what reason why do
we have these bags what are they I
assume people want to carry stuff around
with them I’m sure you could put your
keys in there or maybe you could put
water in the air like a like a shopping
bag I mean it’s just kind of a bag okay
because they also said
that now their third bag has leaked
while defrosting what I did I did say if
you you could put it in the it’s one of
those things where you can stick in the
freezer and you can it can get cold or
you can stick it in the microwave and it
gets hot but what to what purpose would
that that’s for them to decide anyone
can use the bags for any purpose they
want that’s that’s what makes these bags
better than most bags and we’ve been
selling these yeah so I guess an answer
that note I am sorry and I guess address
your complaints to Cameron and he will
hopefully remedy this this bag leakage
problem yeah I’ve just been get given
people your debit card when they have a
completely you can they can just use
that I well I tell them you know if they
bought three bags that’s how much are we
charging yeah I mean that’s about $1,200
for the three bags so 400 bucks apiece
so I’d say okay here’s London’s dr.
London’s debit card only use it for the
amount that you spent which a number of
levels I’m not okay with that
the biggest one of my mind being of
course that you’re using my card without
my permission
hey man stop giving me your debit card
I keep we’ve been this is the seventh or
eighth time I painted out your debit
card and you say no no no yeah and then
I keep doing that I don’t see the issue
okay well any case it to that listener
we wish you well with those bags and we
look forward to hearing from you again
in the future although hopefully you
will not be given my personal debit card
anyway now for a tail from the psych
ward this one is like yeah well this
one’s actually kind of sad see the tail
from the psych ward psych right right so
so bear with me for a second it’s it’s a
little more sad okay
it’s a we had a young african-american
male patient support ok well it’s no
this is this happened so he was
unfortunately blind death sorry blind
deaf and mentally disabled he had been
prescribed antipsychotic medication but
on examination by our staff he was
actually not found to have any
psychological issues psych because of
that previous misdiagnosis he’s being
treated for problems that he did not
have and he was not being treated for
the very real needs that he did have
some kind of sounds like the the
problems they thought he had we’re going
psych yeah I I guess you could put it
that way any case it it’s um sometimes a
very sad part of medicine but that’s why
we train doctors to uh to watch out for
these kind of issues and so hopefully
hopefully we’ll all be improving as we
go now is the ward of the psych an
elected position or is that something
that you’re promoted into okay so so the
word ward has multiple meanings so in
this case Ward is a section of a
hospital or clinic and it’s where they
keep a certain demographic so in this
case the psych ward is the son yes so
it’s a psychiatric what people with
psychiatric illnesses are sectioned off
into this area that’s for ease of one
type of doctor a psychiatrist would go
to that area to to do their work does
that make sense so it’s an elected
position no it’s it’s a portion of a
hospital yeah it’s in the hospital well
okay well so just move on from there
okay I’m gonna be the psych ward one day
hello Cameron did you say that you had a
new like feature segment that you were
excited about yes really really excited
I think it’ll be really really
educational and help the listeners yeah
okay I thought we could kind of make it
into a little
of the game which might be fun okay I
I’m gonna list some symptoms that a
hypothetical patient might have sure so
a patient walks into your office they
say dr. Londe dr. London okay yeah that
sounds like them and then they have
these symptoms and then you can diagnose
them I think Kay yeah that would be like
pretty cool yeah a lot of the test
questions that I had yes yeah we’re like
that absolutely so patient walks in okay
he’s six foot seven but that’s
irrelevant okay so he comes in he says
he has feeling of pain and tightness in
his chest and his left arm has becoming
numb and that started while he was
exercising what do you think is wrong
with him okay so the first thing we want
to roll out is a heart attack
real infarction so that’s that like
that’s the biggest diagnosis that you’re
potentially thinking how old was this
patient did you say impossible to know
okay and he’s sick is one of those
people you can’t tell their age and
you’re too embarrassed to ask okay okay
so if it was an older patient then you
definitely be thinking like a heart
attack kind of things myocardial
infarction if they’re younger you might
also be thinking a variant or Prince
metal angina mm-hmm all that sort of
thing does that that answer your
question I mean those are the first
things that I think of there are more
let me see is that the right answer nope
okay wrong all right well what what does
this hypothetical patient have well okay
so the numbness in his arm is because he
was at the zoo earlier in the day and so
he was eating like a Nutter Butter
you know those yeah yeah things and he
had dropped it in the monkey cages so he
had stuck his arm in there and he was
trying to reach for the Nutter Butter I
think it cut off some circulation I
think a monkey was probably pulling on
his arm too okay so and then the tiniest
in his chest that was just because he
was running so fast cuz the monkeys were
chasing him okay so it’s like like
having a stitch after right like you’re
just yeah so he so he went to the zoo
got his arm stuck and cut off
circulation because he had a Nutter
Butter and he was offering the monkeys
and that okay so this is one of those
things where like in medicine usually we
think of like that would be part of the
history that you give in the question
normally okay so you’re saying you’re
not smart enough to figure this out
without more information that’s
interesting well okay
and I also this just sounds very
specific like like a weird hypothetical
very specific oh is is not every patient
a specific case you sure you see every
person who comes in as just some sort of
blob that mixes up with every other
patient no not as real people dr. London
how does that sound
and we that sound crazy to you no no we
do we do try to consider them in that
way all right well yeah he was running
really hard so as his heart was was
beating really fast his shirt was way
too tight was a really old shirt was a
Bowling For Soup shirt that he had
gotten in 2002 on their tour they’re
like 1985 tour okay
so cause tightness in his chest right
okay well that I would he did get the
Nutter Butter back well well good for
him okay are we ready or can we move on
to the next one oh you have more oh yeah
absolutely
so okay a patient comes in and he’s
having seemingly random episodes of
headaches palpitations sweating you you
test his blood pressure it seems pretty
high what do you think you might be okay
if it’s random episodes of headaches and
things and that palpitations then you’re
starting to think potentially it’s rare
but feo chromis itoma
which is um it’s a rare catecholamine
secreting tumor so that’s like like
adrenaline that kind of thing yeah it
secretes that and I’ve sort of had
random episodes just just kind of gives
you a big boost of energy of adrenaline
okay and so that’s so and that’s for our
listeners who are pretty curious
yeah it’s associated with von
hippel-lindau syndrome multiple
endocrine neoplasia type two and with
neurofibromatosis type 1 and that’s
pretty interesting for being completely
wrong having okay well okay well what
was um what was wrong with this patient
well the headache was because when he
had stuck his arm in the monkey cage the
monkey had grabbed his arms the slammed
it against the cage they matched against
the bar this is the same patient and so
obviously when he’s running away from
the monkey he’s real stressed he’s
scared that’s where the sweating comes
in and the high blood pressure it’s just
the stress of the situation well it
doesn’t sound random either it sounds
you said I think with the
inconsistencies in the time of day that
it happens it has to be random okay and
did you say that you know this person
cuz this doesn’t sound as a quiz but
it’s the same guy your key learning
dropped his Nutter Butter in the monkey
cage so it makes sense that his headache
would be that the monkey is grabbing his
arms slamming it against the cage sure
yeah no I I’m not doubting that that
those symptoms could be caused by that
yeah okay well um all right well we can
go ahead and I guess move on from there
okay today’s topic is the stomach also
known as the belly or when I was little
the Tumtum so sometimes people refer to
their entire abdominal that’s
embarrassing you called your stomach the
tomtom didn’t I sure that you want to be
saying that on mic right now you go to
the Tumtum yeah or they are the tumbly
yeah but I mean now of course I refer to
it as the stomach
TomTom’s are chalky candy right you mean
tums not your stomach
dr. London’s been calling DJ Dylan can
you believe this it’s good to hear DJ
Dylan laughs you know he plays all these
sound effects that’s good to hear him
like really tum tum doum doum oh this is
London’s heartbeat
Tom dome okay so the stomach is actually
just the first big stop in digestion
after you swallow your food and fluids
so what might sound crazy about the
stomach is that it is literally filled
with a substance known as known as
hydrochloric acid I do
just a note I do think that calling it
tum tum does make you more relatable so
I do think you should say that for the
rest of this reading instead of stomach
or bestseller okay so the tum tum is
filled with hydrochloric acid so it’s
good it’s like a scientist said could we
maybe come up with maybe a more fun way
to say that just acid in your stomach
being hydros water or chloride is
chlorine acids acid acid okay so your
Tumtum is filled with acid so it’s like
a science experiment in your belly and
it helps to break down food and it also
kills viruses and bacteria and so that
can help you to keep from getting sick
oh sweet mercy
mmm hello does this you’ve got to stop
this you’ve got to stop this podcast
what do you understand what you’re doing
here I’m sorry is this
Cameron is this a guest yes well this is
that’s a little bit unusual Debra Morgan
Christian Scientist and I really need
you to hear me out right now we’ve been
outside with the shofar we’ve been
praying
we’ve been crying out that you would
hear us
you would finally hear us me and Cameron
have been standing outside when Cameron
you’ve been outside protesting with them
yeah for sure well you know you you
don’t you can just ask me it’s it’s not
hard to reach me oh I’m gonna ask you a
question and get some sort of
condescending response about how I can’t
talk no good I usually no I unless you
usually every single time well if you
don’t is often whenever you talk to me
for whatever reason you are putting food
into your mouth at the time so it’s not
confidence that I just can’t understand
you usually well you can’t let our
guests speak either apparently and it
seems like there’s a lot of things you
can’t do dr. London oh are you
understanding me young man young man are
you understanding me yeah what you’re
doing is wrong don’t you understand
which you are trying to promote the
devil you’re trying to promote demons
you’re trying to promote Satan every
time you give anybody a flu shot any
time you take anybody’s blood pressure
don’t you understand that any time you
do the Heimlich maneuver you are
summoning the devil himself don’t you
understand you just have to cry out
you just have to cry out that’s all you
gotta do don’t you understand young man
you just have to cry out if you’re
choking you just have to say lord help
me Lord if you’re choking you just say
lord help me and whatever it is we’ll
just fly right out don’t you understand
don’t you have faith young man I well
it’s not so much a lack of faith it’s
just I’m sorry you’re saying that I’m
summoning the devil whenever I use the
honey we’re doing the Heimlich maneuver
or whatever you give somebody a cat-scan
when you go in and you ask a patient how
are you today ma’am you are summoning
evil you’re summoning evil don’t you
understand young man don’t you hear my
words young man I’m sorry again Debra
Morgan Christian Scientists okay miss
Debra Morgan Christian Scientists Debra
Morgan Christian Scientists my name is
dr. London Smith don’t say it I don’t
want to hear it this is Debra doc
podcast Debra outside was saying
something really interesting about
corrective lenses okay what about
corrective lenses go ahead Debra when
you use in the corrective lenses when
you put those on it’s as if for the
first time you’re seeing the sky is
opening you’ve seen an angel come down
and that angel says to you young man by
wearing corrective lenses instead of
crying out you’ve summoned the devil
you’ve got a demon inside of you now
well you keep saying that I summon the
devil every time I use is it any piece
of medical technology yes young man
don’t you understand
you keep asking if I understand as well
if I’m not I think so
but this is why I’m clarifying mask if
you clarifying questions to make sure
that I understand so you’re asking do I
understand that I am summoning the devil
every time I use let’s say contact
lenses or a blood pressure cuff
hallelujah she had a lotta fun I have
seen his
have heard he understands okay so she
said that when diabetic when diabetic
people lose a foot it’s as a punishment
for using insulin huh well okay for our
listeners insulin actually would be
protective against that tell that to the
guy without a foot yeah well at that
point he has not taken his insulin would
beat would be the issue and so good
there’s diabetic nephropathy oh sorry
diabetic vascular thiis different nerve
and blood vessel issues that can lead to
the loss of a foot it’s actually leading
cause of amputations in the states the
diabetes so uh it’s because they’re not
crying out yep if they would be crying
out they would no longer have the
diabetes the insulin is filling them
with the devil telling them with demons
what I know I don’t think that that’s
the case
I do you think that uh you know the the
I assume it’s the the biblical text that
it says not to use any medicine any I
guess Western technology yes as a cook
and I body thou shalt never go in for a
cancer to say a shot young man you do
not know you do not understand we’re
back we’re back to being blinded we’re
back to being a an imbecile we I’m sorry
so I I haven’t heard of that specific
text you were quoting has Zach ik is
that right 3:9 and it’s not use insulin
in that but so it’s about shalt not get
in the cat scan machines is that in the
Bible or is that as a cook three nine
she was she was reading a great verse
outside about not using those dr.
Scholl’s things you put in your shoes
that are real squishy okay I guess what
so these all sound like
you know fairly recent inventions and
innovation I don’t think shows she was
saying it was in the Bible yeah I guess
what I’m doing here is I might I’m
questioning that a little bit because I
don’t think that that those those have
only come up in the last you know
century or two especially the dr.
Scholl’s thing that’s this information
was given to me on a mountain don’t you
understand young man okay I didn’t
before I admit that I did not know that
I heard the Thunder I saw the lightning
and then I heard this voice calling
calling calling from the forest it was
saying bro
I responded I said yes I’m here
The Voice said write down what I’m
saying Deborah so I’ve got out a sharpie
so writing it on the jeans said thou
shalt not use insulin and daya bhabhi’s
thou shalt not get a cat scan
thou shalt not ever ever ever go to the
doctor if you have pneumonia okay well
that’s just a small sampling of the many
things that I heard while I was up on
the mountain okay and we have a lot to
tackle there I guess one of my basic
questions would be how do you come up
with a name
Kazak ik for a book of your Bible I
heard it young man don’t you understand
on the mountain oh so he told you what
to name the books yes
chapters introduction preface all of it
okay that’s in the back the what the
maps okay
maps in the back as well okay um that
all does sound very exciting how long
ago did this happen to you two weeks ago
oh wow okay so two weeks ago you went
out on the mountain you wrote out a new
biblical text on your jeans in sharpie
and since then because it has been yeah
roughly that loan that we’ve been having
I would say these protestors it’s been
you and then later
very soon after Cameron joined you
outside protesting yes he understood
he’s a young man who understands don’t
you understand young man if anyone says
anything to me loud enough I’m probably
just gonna agree and to your to your
credit Debra Morgan Christian Scientist
he you were quite loud outside she’s a
lot louder than you that’s that’s valid
I mean I we’re talking into microphones
so I don’t have to be as loud whereas
well
I talked into a megaphone right these
microphones yeah I speak into a
megaphone I let my voice ring out ring
true on the streets right so why are you
like as opposed to protesting in front
of them let’s say a hospital or I’m not
sure like any of the other types of
place why are you protesting outside of
a podcast recording because I still
believe there is hope for you young man
don’t you understand
I still believe there is hope for you
so it’s specifically targeted at me yes
okay but uh what what do you see that
needs to change in in this show or in me
because we are always looking for
feedback it’s time for you to walk away
walk away from what walk away from it
all everything that’s been summoning the
devil okay witch witch burn your scrubs
young man don’t you understand
well that doesn’t seem to be okay
because for one thing we’re relatively
new at this we haven’t been around that
long with with these recordings
maybe maybe dropping it all isn’t the
answer right like possibly we can learn
from each other like maybe maybe there
is something I can learn from you on
this I think I’m going to keep doing the
Heimlich maneuver if someone’s choking
but and not give that person the chance
to cry out
well they you could be standing in the
way of someone’s breakthrough young man
and you wouldn’t even know it because
you’ve been summoning Devils Debra says
that the Heimlich maneuver is the number
one way people lose their feet in
America okay well that that is
inaccurate I think and what one other
note specifically with the Heimlich
maneuver that blocks their ability to
cry out because there is food lodged in
in the way where the air would travel
I’m not sure if you’re aware of that but
that’s they can’t fizzy
we cry out that’s why the emotion is
both hands to the neck because they
can’t say words and that’s the problem
young man people like you doctors like
you believe you don’t understand that
anything is possible anything can happen
doesn’t matter if they’ve got something
lodged in their throat they can cry out
don’t you understand young man okay I
and I feel like I do I am starting to
understand my limitations here
so whenever a person is choking they
can’t make a sound it is that whole with
faith like that young man they can’t
okay before two weeks ago and since then
have you been doing anything else to
raise raise awareness for your cause
here day and night outside of the jock
dock podcast me and Cameron we stand on
egg crates and we tell everyone walking
by that this man summons devils and to
stay away okay and before this what did
you do before two weeks ago i groomed
cats okay so that’s actually how we had
initially met okay so do you have a cat
no I was just kind of wondering you’re
wandering a wondering oh I was just
wondering like what what cat grooming is
like yeah I like this is in a chat room
okay what were it’s a discord channel
and you were that modern enough for you
sure I guess um what so you were
chatting about she said something about
about cat grooming and you said I want
tell me everything yeah tell me
everything and then you end up just
meeting up to talk about cat grooming no
then like a day later she said I got
this word
okay so and I said I’m on board so it’s
two and so than I told her where we were
where we were recording and then she
said that’s the problem or something
that effect well first she said I don’t
have the gas money to get over there I
said here’s a debit card no one well
specifically was it my debit card
it was a debit card and then she came
over here that was two weeks ago okay so
two weeks in a day ago you’ve met online
in a discord chatroom talking about cat
grooming the next day she said she found
out about this that she got this word
about how medicine sounds like Western
medicine in general the very basics of
it are wrong and are not only are wrong
but are summoning the devil and you got
right on board with that two weeks ago
and that’s why you’ve been outside
because you’ve been you’ve been out
there you set up a tent and this is you
live here yeah we’ve been setting up a
tent outside protesting egging the house
yeah okay what more do you want from me
to me it seems a little bit unusual be
doctor London okay our medicines puppet
that that is the viola I’ve been getting
here okay well um well thank you
Debra Morgan and Christian Scientist for
dropping by appreciate it do we have any
other sponsors today or is this mostly a
protest heavy day yeah any any sponsors
that we had initially had I
I told Debra who our sponsors were and
she contacted them and they have dropped
out well okay well never Morgan
Christian Scientists if in the future
you could maybe avoid doing that so much
because we are trying to educate people
I think you Cameron for
as always boo blue this podcast think II
did you do it in the host
and this has been my name is dr. London
Smith calm Thank You Debra Morgan
Christian scientists for coming by do we
have any listener mail today
we sure do dr. London okay our first one
dr. London’s home panel was disarmed
okay the next one dr. London’s home the
back door reported a pending alarm well
what was that forty five minutes ago
okay so I wasn’t here yeah dr. London’s
home the system was no longer armed
please arm the system okay but this does
still sound concerning dr. London’s home
the back window is broken after London’s
home the security system has detected an
entrance through the back window okay so
someone in the house it doesn’t say in
the email do we have video footage or
camp do you have something yeah it says
there’s your back porch security cam
there’s a sign that says has that got
no no okay
so Cameron did you or miss Debra Morgan
Christian Scientist did either of you in
the midst of your protests very recently
break into the house rather than using
the door I don’t we did so much stuff I
don’t know okay kids once because you
have like you can get in normal like the
front door I would have opened the door
for you guys you don’t have to break in
your guests on the show yeah
was kind of a whirlwind we were just
going when you say just going so you
guys were just protesting outside things
were I was happening I don’t know
because you think you should just
started rolling and then things were
just going really crazy at a really fast
pace and we were just all like you know
well because from whenever I would
occasionally look at the window you were
just walking in sort of a circle yeah
holding a sign down with insulin and now
and like that’s all you did and
occasionally you would stop to take a
nap under the tree yeah and like such a
bright day yeah and then try to so warm
mm-hmm well and then you would try to go
to that possum down anyway it so
whenever you say things were going it
doesn’t seem like that’s I don’t know
man
all right well okay so no any any
feedback from the list because that
sounded like security nothing no
listener feedback yet it says your car’s
been torched did it say when that
happened right now like just like
okay cuz that’s okay wad