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previously on the jock doc podcast

it’s kind of sad that this might be the

last time i see him you know

um why is that are you gonna are you

leaving well

i’m gonna be taking a leave of absence

introducing your host dr

london smith

[Applause]

hello and welcome to the jock doc

podcast

where we discuss fitness and health and

how to incorporate

our modern understanding of science and

medicine into our daily lives

but without it being so boring i’m your

host

dr londonsmith.com

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i would like to begin by apologizing to

our listeners

we’ve received some feedback about the

excessive amount of technical medical

terms that i’ve been using

such as functional asplania and latte

so i will try to temper my terminology

to a simpler one in the future

here to help with that is our producer

cameron

hey dr london aren’t you gonna aren’t

you gonna say anything

yeah so so and i don’t like i like for

each of our episodes to be standalone

but on our last episode cameron

told us about this journey he was about

to go on

because he realized he hadn’t traveled

recently or this year

last last episode i had decided that i

hadn’t traveled this year at all which

you know was super weird and i just

hated it

and so i was thinking this podcast is

just holding me down i’m not even

traveling anymore

for no other reason than this podcast

and so

i quit the job and i traveled around the

world

and uh my plan was instead of traveling

by

you know uh like a like a hot air

balloon or a boat or a plane

i was gonna be the first person to

travel the entire world in a box car

racer

and so of course i took it up to the

peak of mount everest

i rode the boxcar racer down the

mountain

uh which gathered enough momentum to go

around the world

and uh faster than any cops could stop

me

so you actually that’s what i did dr

london i’m back

i do you know why you were not supposed

to be able to travel

like that i feel like that is

entirely irrelevant i know that

americans are not allowed

in a lot of places right now no because

of the

the virus you could be spreading well i

think i think

the reason it’s so easy to spread is

because it’s on planes

and since mine isn’t a box car racer i

believe that means it’s

coveted proof did you ever

say like did you interact with people on

your journey

do you speak to them did you touch

people at all

ew i yes i took

lovers is that what you’re asking god

anyway oh that’s not what i was asking

anyway

it does answer the question i went on

this amazing journey i wrote a boxcar

racer down

mount everest and i didn’t get hurt at

all

and don’t google my name or

anything just don’t google anything and

that is exactly what happened

you didn’t get hurt emotionally

i nothing happened i just did exactly

what i set out to do

don’t google it and just don’t look it

up

because i did i did exactly that i went

to mount everest boxcar racer don’t look

it up

okay that’s our producer cameron so also

with us

is DJ DYLAN IN DA HOUSE

i i went on this amazing journey i wrote

a boxcar racer down mount everest and i

didn’t get hurt at all and

don’t google my name or anything just

don’t google anything

and that is exactly what happened

don’t google it because i did i did

exactly that i went to mount everest

don’t look it up don’t google

it and just don’t look it up

don’t don’t google it don’t don’t google

it

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and just don’t look it up just don’t

look it up

and later cameron tells me we can expect

a special guest

that’s right dr london a guest so

special that they

won’t google uh

my name and any of the countries and

mount everest they’re not going to look

that up and see anything other than my

boxcar racer adventure

yes i’m going to go ahead and google it

cameron you keep insisting that i

don’t but no i mean

i don’t even think google’s on today i

think it’s i think they usually take

mondays off it’s like italian

restaurants

cameron

you associate yourself with the yeah so

can’t okay

camera producer cameron okay wow

so you did get to mount everest i go

no i was there yeah so that’s one of the

so one of the headlines is camera man

speaks to horse

on everest yep that all of that is yup

absolutely okay

and then this is where maybe the you

know the where the media

who was just trying to drum up a story

you know maybe their story differs a

little from mine i guess

um okay so it says you can’t

beat a dead horse but you can

carry it across the world wow

so so did

okay from reading it it sounds like the

the horse

that you use to to take you to the top

of mount everest

to you know to go down get that incline

and

travel the world it died during the

process

somewhere and you you kept it with you

i guess maybe for the extra weight

i wrote it down what about the

i got the car well i just i don’t know i

mean it was kind of falling apart

and it got really wet because like the

snow and stuff

which was like really cold well what

about

the dead horse surely that got cold

after a while

no i got i got into the carcass of the

dead horse and i wrote it down like a

sled

and that has gotten that banned from

most countries in the world yeah well

i’m just

on the practical side of how that worked

for transport is what i’m wondering

because

that’s not you before you were talking

wheels and it already sounded it didn’t

sound feasible

to travel by boxcar around the world

because of

just no no engine no the horse

the horse didn’t make it around the

world london it just made it down the

mountain

okay and then i got banned from every

other mountain that exists

i’m not allowed on mountains anymore

oh so you didn’t make this journey

you made it to the bottom of a mountain

via dead horse yeah

i mean i made it to the top of mount

everest i feel like that’s an

accomplishment

anyway i’m back all i’m trying to say is

i’m back on the podcast

rejoice fans of the show

even though i left i have returned

yeah and so yeah we should leave it on

that note that you climbed mount everest

that is a

huge feat most people don’t do it thank

you i sure haven’t

okay but a dead horse okay uh but

anyway before we move on i should

address a bit of listener feedback

i found this message printed word by

word on every article of clothing

after doing my laundry at the local

laundromat the note reads quote

i’m renting a room for one female no

animals no boyfriends no smoking no

drinking no drugs no movies in

california 900

no bathroom no kitchen no closet end

quote

so so first of all to this listener

thank you here for

reaching out to us here the jock talk

podcast

uh so to this listener i’m you may

want to reconsider your place of

residence if it has no bathroom

especially if it’s costing you nine

hundred dollars you know well i

you know dr london i i you know not to

disagree with you here

um but i actually recently spent some

time

in a certain place that didn’t have a

bathroom or a closet or all the things

you typically

think of um when you’re inside a place

um and you’re referring to the dead

horse

yeah yeah i mean it was the horse

carcass i was riding down the mountain

yeah

yeah but that you know that didn’t have

all of the like frilly like

20 20 millennial technology like uh

oh i need a keurig with oh do you have

donut shops sir that’s the only keurig i

can drink

yeah but it’s so you’re comparing

the inside the carcass of a horse

too that wasn’t to you that was to the

guy yeah the person demanding that they

have a cure egg

yeah don’t shop

yeah the hypothetical okay so anyway in

my opinion

you don’t really want to compare your

place of residence

in general to living inside of a horse

carcass in terms of

you know if you’re paying rent uh some

in in survival situations

these these kind of things may happen

but um

i also understand that finding a place

to live on a budget can be terribly

difficult

and so we do all have to work within our

means

and so maybe 900 for

i’ll rent the carcass for 750 utilities

included

does it have utilities included

so electricity plumbing uh

i mean the utilities are included so

they i mean i would imagine it would

have to have all that

otherwise i couldn’t say that right

okay all right well anyway to this

listener thank you for listening

now for today’s medical topic

sarcoidosis

sarcoidosis is a chronic systemic

granulomatous disease characterized by

non-caseating granulomas

and this often involves multiple organ

systems

so granulomas are an organized

collection of macrophages

and macrophages are of course a part of

your body’s immune system

so it’s sort of a granuloma is like a

small ball of inflammation

cornering whatever pathogen they are

targeting in sarcoidosis

lungs are almost always involved

sarcoidosis

occurs most commonly in the

african-american population

especially women um and 75 percent of

cases occur when the individual is under

40 years of age

so this is a relatively young patient

uh often of african-american descent

that clinton when i go to the doctor and

i tell him about

the small ball of like i don’t know the

small inflamed ball

inside of me he tells me that’s a bad

thing

yeah well it’s i don’t know if you have

sarcoidosis but

yeah it’s it’s not it’s not a i wouldn’t

call it a good thing

it’s not i didn’t i don’t know what that

is it’s from you know spraying like axe

deodorant down my

throat and then lighting a match and it

kind of goes whoosh

but sometimes if i’ve eaten something

you know like a you know

ball like that that’ll catch on fire too

and the doctor says you know just stop

doing that

yeah what what ball thing are you

when you when i say jawbreaker

okay when i say inflammation it’s called

jawbreaker

no not if i swallow it whole

yeah i beat jawbreakers

so whenever i talk about inflammation

that’s like

i guess an easy example is like a

mosquito bite how it’s

raised and red and warm

you know so that’s that’s an example of

what inflammation looks like

so i’m not talking about a literal fire

so if you were

spraying axe body spray on a jawbreaker

lighting it on fire and throwing it down

your throat

yeah yeah that’s that’s different from

what i’m referring to in this

oh okay sorry sometimes with all the

like jargon and stuff i can’t keep track

i thought okay

yeah go ahead go ahead don’t let me

interrupt again okay so

clinically patients can present with

constitutional symptoms

like malaise fever anorexia and weight

loss

in the lungs patients may have dry cough

or shortness of breath

especially with exercise and 25

of cases patients may have rashes or

plaques but especially

oh no you weren’t pushing direct

at our heart yeah

why did you swallow that now a diet

yeah i just why now guys

hung it down

okay so i’m just cameron

in 25 percent of cases patients may have

rashes or plaques but especially one

type called erythemanidosum

patients may also have eye problems like

anterior posterior uveitis which may

result in some

significant visual impairment in five

percent of cases

the heart may be affected causing

arrhythmias uh

and conduction disturbances such as

heart block and sudden death

in the musculoskeletal system patients

may have

body and joint aches i get another

girl i can push it on down

i i’m not gonna let you up swallow

another jawbreaker hoping to push it

down because

this is gonna end up in your stomach at

best

and at worst and i think more likely

you’ll just have two

jawbreakers stuck in your throat

do you see why that’s not good

yeah so in the musculoskeletal system

patients may have

body and joint aches and bone lesions in

the nervous system

some cases include cranial nerve seven

involvement

leading to bell’s palsy or optic nerve

dysfunction papilloedema

or peripheral neuropathy diagnosis is

based on a combination of clinical

radiographic and histological findings

on chest x-ray the hallmark of

sarcoidosis

is bilateral hyaluronopathy but

that is not specific only seen in you

know about half of cases

um angiotensin converting enzyme or ace

is elevated in the serum in about 50 to

80 percent of patients

patients can also have hypercalceuria

and hypercalcemia

that means increased calcium in the the

blood and urine uh definitive diagnosis

requires

right what

i can call kidney drugs right

yeah yeah it can cause kidney stones

that’s increased calcium in the urine

can do that

um but i think some of these other

symptoms that i mentioned might be more

noticeable

so so on biopsy non-casing granulomas

can be seen

but this once again must be coupled with

clinical findings to make the diagnosis

uh pulmonary function tests are also

used and they’ll show decreased lung

volumes and decreased

fev1 over every cv ratio

in terms of treatment most cases of

sarcoidosis fortunately resolve

or significantly improve spontaneously

in two years

and do not require treatment so cameron

if

you had sarcoidosis

fortunately the likelihood is that it

would at least

improve within a couple years but

it sounds like this is just a jawbreaker

in the other cases systemic

corticosteroids are the treatment of

choice for

very symptomatic ones methotrexate is

also used in patients with

progressive disease that is refractory

to corticosteroids

now cameron i would say you should not

be taking those medications that i just

said it’s

i think you should just stop swallowing

jawbreakers

and especially do not light anything on

fire before

putting in your mouth uh

[Music]

i got a a like

kind of her eyes

i i heard i heard something about copper

eyes

oh compromise compromise okay um

i don’t i don’t think this is something

to compromise on cameron like

maybe just lick the jawbreaker have you

tried that

uh then a larger would be winning

i gotta start down

here just with your finger is he your

friend here

no no no no

[Music]

no no no no no no

okay

and so i think now i should be good for

all the

likes i won’t get like all the stuff you

said right

yeah so in the future you know with

jawbreakers they can’t break your jaw if

they never

enter your jaw have you ever thought of

that well then where would they go

well if you lick them you bypass

the oh what is with you today

okay i’m i’m sorry yeah i it might sound

strange first with the

the the people you met just

just just stop just stop okay okay yeah

we can

we can move on from there

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all right uh cameron you said that we

have a guest today is that right

that is right dr london a guest i’m very

very excited about

all right uh hello there

hey hey thank you so much for having me

thank you thank you sure yeah

thank you for your name name’s uh dr

mark boudreau i don’t know

how the radio thing works here so i’m

just going to go for it

there it is dr mark boudreau i’m here

mark i agree appreciate it i mean dr

boudreau as i should say what uh what

what brings you to the show

i’m here to talk about my uh my new book

it’s called haha health

how laughter is the cure for everything

and other observations

okay other observations so this is

like sort of an observation based study

you conducted

yeah well the the beginning of

the book is my personal development

story

uh i was a doctor of some um

good acclaim i i did okay over here i i

practiced medicine in southeastern what

does that mean but i

would like to have some acclaim do

doctors receive like trophies and

stuff well doctors

you know where you you go to a hospital

and it’s like uh

oh don’t go to that guy but then they’ll

be like go

okay so it’s more word-of-mouth there’s

not like a doctor award ceremony called

like the donkeys or something that’s

like the espys

which is the only award ceremony i wish

oh i wish

oh you’d be sweeping up there give me a

document

give me a donkey that’s all i want

give me a donkey give me a donkey

that’s all i want

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well some people who know about it might

might be made aware of it and invited to

the donkeys but you’re saying you want

to be

invited to the donkeys too dr london

well i

may not have gotten an award but no a

few of us have been to the donkeys and

it’s

no it’s it’s a big deal but uh no i want

to hear more about

uh dr mark boudreau’s um

[Music]

i want to hear more about this book his

acclaim

oh his acclaim well so the beginning of

the book the observations are

my observations as a doctor before my

accident

uh you see i i have had a

pretty severe brain trauma happen to me

uh that took me

off of the front lines um and put me

behind the scenes

in uh testing so i have what is refer

yeah that’s okay it’s okay i have what

is uh referred to as pseudo

bulber effect uh which is uh also called

pba

you know you may have heard it in in the

text it’s pretty rare but uh

it is un uh i cannot control uh

fits of laughter or crying so you can

just imagine

that i did not want to be at the bedside

giving bad news

and then uh cracking up that would uh

yeah

could not do that might work yeah i mean

especially if they can get

something i mean funny right i mean

exactly you’re telling me a guy comes in

there and he’s got like he slipped on a

banana peel

and he came in because he he smashed his

face into a pie

you’re telling me you’re not gonna laugh

at that are you kidding me

oh my god

[Laughter]

so you can imagine i can’t be at the

bedside thinking about pies

because it’s all over for me and then uh

so what

it took me uh to research and that’s uh

that those are the observations is uh

how one man one doctor could

take a look at himself and be so

self-aware that he knew

that he had to figure out is laughter

the best medicine

and how could you scientifically prove

this

and i think this book uh really

emphatically answers the question

okay so uh

i i guess what what what have been your

findings what have you seen as

the answer to that question it’s

something it’s a

it’s a mixed bag okay boy

i guess i’m sorry is it is it okay if we

laugh with you or is that

that healthy it makes me feel more

comfortable okay because

it’s a it’s a bit of a so you you

publish the book when the when the

findings were just a mixed bag

you were like this book is ready yeah

not like let’s do more research

no you know i had a very aggressive time

to finish wow um yeah i

i it’s published through amazon and they

are yeah huge stuff

sticklers about deadlines when you’re

publishing

yeah they want that book well um if you

order it on the prime

then it has to be there by monday right

it

has to be there by monday so that is you

know

i pulled all the punches no punches

pulled actually no punch take a step

back here

so if if we’re including prime shipping

of this are you saying that you listed

the book before you had written it

and then basically gave yourself two

days to write it so it can ship in time

correct that’s i mean that’s genius well

you know i i did not want to write a

book that nobody wanted

so i wrote when i put it on there i was

surprised at how many people pre-ordered

it

so i i had to get right now like

right away you know i would like to hear

about these findings i mean dr london

are you interested in this is this

something are you too skeptical you and

your

your uh oh i only care about the pills

and the the

shots and the medicine and the 5g or

whatever

yes no the um you know laughter positive

outlook all these things can be

uplifting that’s why you know on rare

occasion we even

sometimes have a little bit of levity on

this podcast

sometimes i’ll you know i’ll make a

small

joke and uh win name it

name a time yeah i’m trying to think of

just a single

a single time you haven’t had a stick

so far up one way that it’s coming out

another way

tell me yeah no i’m trying

well now that i’m on the spot i’m trying

to think like knock knock

knock knock joke did i mean for my sake

you don’t have to do you don’t have to

hash this out here i

i no i mean doctors are we’re

we’re funny people period we’re just

we’re a hoot

we’re a holler you know you have to be

to be uh as

as crazy as we are we’re you sound like

a hoot for sure i’m loving your whole

thing right now

and you’re bringing a good vibe and i

like how you’re laughing at everything

which makes me feel good

which then also makes me feel hotter

which is nice

but dr london over here he does not have

a funny bone in his body

i don’t know if he has bones in his body

because that’s the only way he looks

that’s the only way that would explain

why he looks the way he looks

is if he was just sort of a sack of

organs

yeah i that’s

i mean my nickname in middle school was

organ

but i’m sorry what were you saying

doctor so

i i mean i i don’t

know if not having skeletal

systems inside of your body is good it

seems like that would be bad but that

would be a test

that you could read about in my book

where um

oh that’s in there luckily i i i wrote

it in two days but it’s from a

lifetime of research so the the the

being without a skeleton part that is in

the book

i yes i i do a big part of on

encephalopods um and i just want to see

can i make an

octopus uh laugh by playing him lenny

bruce i would

and then hope hopefully making making

him

i’d love to hear an excerpt from this

book i mean dr london are you interested

in this

yeah yeah if you could just read a

little bit a passage for us

yeah yeah i’ll read uh this is

you know i’ll i’ll leave i think i’ve

already blown the encephalopod thing but

i have another uh chapter called uh will

the leg

grow um so here we go um here we go um

um time marsden

didn’t have a leg oh what a bummer

but luckily he came into my lab

with a dream and a case of the giggles

this the experiment was set up thusly

he would sit in the chair i would play

him the great

muppet caper and we would see what

happens

he found the movie enjoyable but did not

laugh once

i knew that i had to pull out the trump

card

meaning old school whoa

well once he got to you’re my boy blue

the giggles were just flowing

but you know what wasn’t flowing new leg

laughter does not cure loss of limb

wow so the

this book is filled filled with

anecdotes that’s a huge

finding i mean my god i feel like the

medical community would be

reeling with this information okay so

you’re telling me that no not a single

scene in old school made this guy’s leg

grow back

not one and he he was really laughing

and with every laugh i would be like

think about your leg think about your

leg please

and then like that would bring him back

down so then i would like have to remind

rewind the part with you or my boy blue

and that would make him laugh again and

i’d be like the leg

think the leg wow and that just

nothing i mean this is an amazing

scientific finding doctor this is

incredible

i can’t i can’t help but think so you’re

whenever a patient falls ill

you chose rather than to to

treat them you chose to

just give them something funny to watch

something that you think is funny to

watch

is that right

i guess you could say that yeah that’s

well let me rewind let me rewind let me

read because

again i am not at the bedside

this is not at the bedside i am

a research scientist now a doctor

research site so they’re coming to me

this is not me

going hey i’ve got the cure for you

it’s hey looking for people that want to

cure stuff

and you make it give you some give you

some good really yeah it sounds more

like

it’s like hey do you want to watch old

school with me

yes i mean it’s a great movie yeah

there’s no denying it’s a great movie i

i’m not there’s no judgment in that at

all but

that’s essentially what you’re asking

people is like hey do you want to watch

old school later

right well and and but the underlying

scientific thing that we were trying to

see is

could the laughter cure

major ailments and for the most part

it is hit and miss it is

wow very much to hear i mean is there a

is there a hit

example that you have where it’s just

i’m sorry wait wait i want to clarify

something first

so forgiving clinical study

you’re trying to you know focus in on

like say you have this treatment

laughter and you’re trying to find out

does this specific treatment cure and

then you would try it against a placebo

or a control and so in this case

did you have patients who were you know

were these patients treated medically at

the same time

or were they only given laughter you see

if i didn’t have a brain injury i would

have thought of that

oh i guarantee that that now i remember

control group yeah the injury did not

just

cause this uncontrollable laughing and

crying it’s

it just kind of made you stupid right

whoa hey i still have feet oh yeah

no no okay i mean i don’t know i don’t

know what’s there or not boy

no there is there’s enough there’s

enough i

they give they can’t take away a

doctorate if you’re not practicing

real medicine except except it sounds

a little bit like you still are trying

to replace medicine and

i am a clinical technician trying to

solve problems through watching

yeah which is admirable i mean i he’s

doing more for the world than you are dr

london he’s actually

pushing new research for the forefront

we we have figured out that it does it

does not

cure uh major major uh

uh renal failure 100 ineffective

against renal failure uh um

it is terrible i wanna i really wanna

ask

like the the control group i guess the

situation

with renal failure was it old school

again or did you play something else for

him

well i always save old school for a

second

you know i’ll i’ll start with something

lighter yeah like lenny bruce

something like buddy bruce yeah loosen

them up with some lenny bruce

you know and then i might play the

muppets

and then uh you know when i can if i see

that that’s not really what they’re

looking for

boom right right right any muppet movie

or is that

is it always muppet caper the funniest

of them all

so okay well so i actually

i was one of those people who ordered

this book you know right off the bat it

sounded very

it sounded fascinating to me um would

you mind if i read

a little excerpt from it from a chapter

that i found to be

you know fairly interesting yep oh oh

please uh yeah

i mean anything that gets people

interested yeah so this comes from the

chapter entitled

good samaritan law all right so

as we know by good samaritan law

you can be the first person on site

at an accident and intervene

medically and not be held legally

responsible

so with that in mind i began

my experiment

patient was bleeding out

i brought my portable dvd player

keep going i set it up this is the best

this is the best i made sure the

headphones were properly in place

okay that’s important and this guy is

crying

the man shouts for his wife

i shush him

give a good sh you kind of like you

gotta look and i point

to the screen on my portable dvd player

yup just check this out and he continues

to bleed

and i take notes

and eventually the ambulance arrives

there

i pack up my portable dvd player

and i run correct okay so so that’s

that’s the end of

just that passage and actually i mean dr

london if you look on the

other side of that page are the notes he

was taking down and their notes about

the movie

right yeah i mean you’ve clearly seen

both

i mean i mean this lenny bruce dvd

the muppet caper and old school probably

hundreds of times at this point but you

gotta

have a fantastic comedy i love it i love

this attitude

it’s bringing it to such a stuffy let me

tell you

but i cut you off uh dr london before

you could read the

you know the final part where you know

and and we conclusively

prove that uh laughter does not cure

hemorrhaging yeah

yeah that was that was that was a

successful

that was a successful application of the

scientific isn’t this the scientific

method this is incredible

i i well dr london actually real quick i

do have a question

um you know you clearly are a huge fan

of old school

who was the best who was directed by

todd phillips who also directed

a movie recently last year

joker that is about the same sort of

disease that you have does that is that

is that movie did that movie speak to

you in any kind of way i’m not a real

drama fan

that would make sense i don’t even know

why i asked so i

i have to i have to be honest i have to

tell you i i haven’t seen it but oh

boy it sounds like a good one i mean uh

i mean if todd phillips made uh made

that i mean

he made those hangover movies which i

mean eventually

when my dvd breaks i will have to buy

another movie i’m sure

old school sold out everywhere i won’t

be able to find another uh version of it

so i’ll just have to go move on to

hang over probably probably you’re not

gonna be able to find one anywhere

yeah i mean it’s it’s so oop that’s

great so i had another

just and this is a minor question so in

that passage

you talked about the portable dvd player

have you do you know about phones and

how you can

stream you know movies and shows on your

phone

i had a head injury okay dr

london what are you doing

so i can’t hold devices with um

signals close to my head okay or in my

pocket

um because it really it’s bad for me i

don’t know that’s what my doctor

says and he won a docky dr boudreau

you have better call saul’s brother

disease yes

you know better call saul’s brother he

like couldn’t touch cell phones or

whatever you have that disease

cameron that’s a drama oh oh uh

uh you ever watched mister show

i i have not seen it i know mr show

so his buddy who uh

mr show’s buddy the show’s buddy yeah i

guess

um yeah he can’t he can’t touch the

cell phones that’s all that’s all i i

didn’t mean to stop everything in its

tracks like this

okay because and i guess so it’s a

polaroid that you were using to take all

the pictures because there are a lot of

selfies of you

with patience on the side of the road

like all

throughout this book it’s very heavily

illustrated with

just patience covered and blinded

yeah so that was i i guess

that does answer my question so it was

with polaroid camera the

the old-fashioned yes yes yeah and

i mean i knew when the type setter got

those pictures they were going to be

like

whoo but you know we did what we did

and i’m glad we did it and the book is a

triumph

yeah i mean it sounds like you’ve really

brought something new to the medical

community

which is a you know famously

close-minded community

you know if they don’t read it from a

harvard experiment then they’re not

going to believe it

but here here goes to show that you know

i mean i’m just here to break

to break down walls and you know break

down the brick around your heart

and maybe let a little bit of laughter

in but once again i do need to let you

know that it will

uh laughter does not um cure heart

attack

so uh don’t don’t treat it for that

it’s good for i found it you know we’ve

been talking about the negative here

um you know there’s a laundry list of

things it’s not good for cancer

treatment is terrible

um it’s not really good for any body or

foot order

but

it’s good for retraction retraction

attraction my friend the fairer sex

if you know what i’m talking about okay

uh

i guess you’d have to be more specific

yeah you pop in old school

the giggles start next thing you know

it’s make out city

was this and this was an experiment i’ve

never been there

yeah this is not sure i’m aware wait

wait wait is there a chapter on the book

of the book about this yes i would love

to hear part of this chapter

sure here we go just open it up

make out city tommy and donna were love

on the rocks

until they came and saw me

i told them that the experiment would be

easy

sit in this love seat wink wink

and i will put in one of my patented

comedy dvds

they began with lenny bruce neither

seemed interested or amused

they started talking to each other i

could tell

the magic was already starting

up next the great muppet caper

how long do we have to be here said

donna

you leave when i say so said me

up next old school the coup

de grace 10 minutes

into the movie they start kissing

because they seem to be so bored

of the laughter they had to take a break

well this is the

the third movie in a row that you had

them watch

yes this was this was five hours

into uh the experiment it sounds like

almost

every single chapter of this book is

describing a different way to show these

exact three movies like it

there’s maybe one sentence about the

other subjects which might be like

in two days i have a brain injury

give me a freak no i

totally understand that but it’s even

you know you’re talking about

hemorrhaging you have a chapter on

hemorrhaging but 99

of it is just describing like putting

the dvd in and watching it

yeah and then maybe like a sentence it’s

like it doesn’t work with him or doing

but yeah yeah that’s that’s every single

that’s every single chapter

yeah give or take well i mean this this

sounds like a must buy

i think go and get it please

i am starving i mean yeah dr london do

you

can we put our official jock doc podcast

stamp of approval on this book

yes i we’ve actually never given this

out because no book has ever been worthy

well one thing i do like is the honesty

well yeah okay sorry you put it on the

quran which i thought was weird but i

don’t even want to get into that we

i’m not even touching yeah we try to

stay you know apolitical no religion

stuff

we just try to you know focus on the

medicine here but uh

yeah i couldn’t tell if it was

disrespectful or respectful to slap a

giant sticker of

jock dog podcast approved on top of the

quran i don’t know and i don’t want to

know let’s not touch it

right yeah let’s let’s not okay so

um for this one the

the pros let’s go over the pros to you

know

why i would like this book it’s honest

sometimes like even the make out city

chapter

was very specific in details of where

because this was on location he went to

a place called make out city

and there’s a whole section on

describing that

and uh the other thing that i think

might actually be compromising and

working against it is

he puts a lot of personal information

about each patient

in the chapters yeah i did want to ask

about

that did putting down where they’re

going to be

like a gp that a sort of it looks i mean

it’s just on the paper there’s like gps

coordinates that are constantly changing

i assume you attach something to them

was that what purpose does that serve dr

boudreau

i well number one i needed to prove that

it all happened

um not exactly in the united states

oh okay but so but close you’re saying

the laws

were more elusive right right we need to

make sure

that everybody knew that this was

in a space

that uh one could call free

okay okay

it’s still so to me um

i guess i should clarify well so so i’d

like okay

let me let me rephrase let me rephrase i

i think i’ve uh

complicated the uh the uh the air

what i do is um anytime that i’m a good

samaritan i know i’m free and clear

because i believe

laughter is the best medicine so i i

give them the only medicine i have

which is the gift of uh laughter i

may never call 9-1-1 but i don’t think

that’s on me

i mean other people can see what’s

happening

so you know even though i am always

wearing

scrubs um and um my lab coat

they uh you know people sometimes

will go like oh he’s got it under

control and then i’m like oh pay dirt

i’m gonna get to uh old school with this

one uh

and most of those people who’ve injured

themselves they do not make it to old

school

uh which is the great tragedy of this

book yeah and it also sounds like the

spectators who are who are thinking he’s

got it under control none of them

question

why after maybe four hours of watching

dvds

yes no one questions yeah what’s going

on

nobody you think you know what you ever

uh okay i’ve seen a drama you ever see

catch me when

if you can uh yeah is that a drama

i mean it’s a goof yeah but it’s fun but

it’s dramatic

it’s a it’s a dramatic romp i would say

christopher walken says

you know catch them watching the

pinstripes and that’s what uh scrubs in

a

lab coat does and you know they see that

and they get caught up in it and they’re

like oh

he knows what he’s doing and then i have

to you know

tell him you know well yeah did you did

you try telling

any of your patients that weren’t

laughing did you try telling them

uh the christopher walken story about

the mice uh in a bucket of cream

joke because that is funny

that’s that’s funny i mean

that little mouse works so hard yeah

oh my gosh and cream

okay so just um there’s

so uh i guess i should just explain

since i did read the book

uh there is a section where uh dr

boudreau he did describe his approach

so whenever he goes up to a given scene

because he instructs the readers how to

do it for themselves

how they can carry out these experiments

um

you you yeah it’s it’s under the uh it’s

the title

uh you laugh they laugh everybody laughs

yeah

and so you do according to you at least

you arrive on scene

and you if you see someone trying to

call 9-1-1

you do yell at them and forcibly

stop them if possible right well i mean

i start with the hey

hey what are you doing we’re watching

old school over here

yeah probably the sell signals are are

messing with you

so you got

you know it’s not fun yeah okay because

we’re okay

so with that because because i was

thinking like maybe

your mindset was you don’t want to

compromise the study

but for you it’s just the the pain of it

oh yep okay that’s better

i guess um

so i i don’t know that we can really put

our stamp of approval on this

because did you ever see a spinal tap

11. mr come on mr shows

better call saul brother was in spinal

tap

and i think that brings everything

together

there it is okay

well speaking of you know bring it all

together it seems like this is

oh you know what uh don’t forget yeah

i knew you were about to forget we got

to get to the chore wheel

oh boy if you are just now

joining us i mean the last few weeks we

have had to finally take care of all of

these chores that have been piling up

and piling up and piling up and so we

created this chore wheel

that we’re spinning every week just to

knock off one duty

one thing we have to do we have no

choice in the matter

but we’re just trying to check things

off a list at this point so let’s

let’s dj dylan can you go ahead and fire

up the uh the chore wheel

yes all right

it says

movie reviews oh gosh okay we do have to

do this all right

this is a this is one that’s not too

much of a chore honestly i’m excited to

do this because i’ve been wanting to get

some of this stuff off my chest

um we the all of us here today i i don’t

even have to ask i assume that we’ve all

seen the movie that every single person

in the world

is talking about yeah splanter’s choice

splanter’s choice

and every single person is screaming

about how genius this movie is and how

how the cinematography

is so magical and so fluid

and how bronty chauncers was the

greatest actor in the world

and he should win sorry sorry sorry

you go on and that uh that everything

about it is genius and you know what

frankly i have to agree

sponsors choice it’s an incredible film

yes everything about it mesmerized me i

mean the part

where the mountain actually was a hole

and everyone was just looking at it

upside down

and then once they realized it it caused

them to fall and then splanter said who

that part cracked me up but then also

made me think

i thought about that for days

yeah no no that’s a good take that’s a

good take cameron um

and that’s well thought out but i guess

if you’re looking at movies with the

critical eye

which is kind of just how i view

everything here we go again

yeah so splandre’s choice

maybe not the movie for everyone is is

what i thought

so it’s not for pretentious doctors is

that what you’re about to say

i look i don’t mean to have these

opinions just

when i watched it i thought what i

thought so

the main character splaunter first of

all

not this actor’s best work uh oh yeah

then what is

to tell me what is what has he done

better

uh what is braunsch chonker since done

better

transtonia you remember transtonia

okay that’s fair yeah that was from a

different

time before we had 4d

screenings but sure yeah that’s fine

i’ll agree

that that movie definitely trans tony i

mean i have to respect

i have to respect it for at least

putting i mean floppy floppers

on the map yeah

so anyway so in splendor’s choice the

issue that i had with

there came a point in the movie and i

don’t want to spoil anything but

splanter did have to make that choice

and it was tough yeah it was tough

the fact that a full 10 minutes of the

movie

full 10 minutes was just him reading a

book on the subject

to make sure he made the right choice

and just

it was multiple camera angles that’s

called character development are you

kidding me how are you gonna establish

that he’s making

the choice that’s actually informed if

you don’t spend time

establishing that i mean

most movies will do a montage but there

was also no music

there was nothing it was just splanter

reading book and i’m sorry you know what

it’s instead of a soundtrack it was just

the sounds of a baby crying

which i thought was genius how

subversive and

crazy is that yeah which no mention of

children

in the movie besides that sound like

there’s no reference implied

that they’re off screen dr london

okay so sorry uh dr boudreau um

well this is this is this is dino go to

brunch all over again and you just

you hated dino go to brunch because you

said there wasn’t enough brunch and you

said it was too late in the day for

brunch

that’s right which is insane you know

that brunch can go to 4 p.m

lots of restaurants offer it till 4 p.m

not in the country that it was

oh my god i’ll maintain that not right i

can’t listen to this

dr boudreau can i please hear hear your

thoughts on this film um

well the movie

i i wish you would have known how much i

i don’t enjoy dramas

uh before you asked me to watch this

movie i mean sure

sure there was that moment with splanter

and uh

you know the pie and that was great um

but bronte

chauncers is absolutely uh no will

ferrell

no i mean uh the whole

the whole movie i’m waiting for frank to

the tank to show up

and instead um the mountain’s a whole

and uh you know we’re reading for 10

minutes

and it you know for 10 minutes without a

laugh that is

uh you know the um what is that the

laugh

to cry ratio yeah

it wasn’t good it wasn’t good but i will

say

it was beautiful

that cinematography was breathtaking

and you know i mean we go to joseph

campbell we take a look at the hero with

the thousand faces

you got it with splanter his choice it

was an epic

choice and major ramifications the

mountains a hole

that was a twist i didn’t expect to see

um the pie

i tell you tell me you laughed at the

pie right i laughed at the pie

we all laughing i mean i’m a human

who laughs and sometimes who

don’t check out the pie and splanter’s

choice don’t besmirch the name of

america’s greatest comedian

um i’m really sorry about that that’s

okay

um but i mean i was happy

that i branched out and saw something

that wasn’t the three movies

that i’ve watched pretty much every day

for the last uh

five years so that was nice

so thank you gentlemen for uh you know

teaching this old dog a new trick okay

all right there it is yeah

the trick being to to watch and watch

something different yeah

yeah usually yeah my genre of comedy

great comedy films the lenny bruce

yeah the lenny bruce stand up special

here’s my here’s here it is this is the

trinity of comedy to me

the lenny bruce stand up special mistake

manhattan

old school and old school

okay wow so that’s that’s done then

we finished that chore for for this week

at least yeah the chore

we can check that off the list dj dylan

if you could fire up the

checking that off the list machine yeah

yes

more of a canon but yeah yeah it’s more

of a canon and it’s

i mean it’s a it’s a crime to own this

thing right

yeah i i do question the legality of at

least

er we don’t have to store whatever yeah

it might be one of those things where

you know ownership

isn’t the problem so much as possession

whatever

anyway um yeah so i feel like we’re

you know we can kind of wrap it up now

right we did our chore

we learned about the book ha ha health

um yeah i mean uh dr boudreau i mean is

there anything that you

wanna i mean besides this wonderful book

that we’re gonna slap the

jock doc uh podcast seal of approval on

it’s not really was it like well we’re

going to do it anyway was there anything

that you wanted to promote

uh well my nephew has a podcast

network called gabba media

g-a-b-e-r-m-e-d-i-a

does a bunch of podcasts there one of

them you know they answer the question

of uh what if we listen to limp biscuit

today

it’s called roach coach coach okay

and uh i i don’t know what the hell’s

going on it but

they seem to enjoy it okay wow so it’s

like a new

metal type of podcast yep every week

they listen to a different new metal

album and uh they uh they uh see if it

belongs in the new metal cannon

whoa have you have do you know if

they’ve gotten to pod

yet yes they have done uh they have done

the first pod record they’ve

south town yeah they they’ve done uh

the satellite wow

that sounds amazing i definitely have to

listen to that it’s uh

it is very comprehensive

i just never believed that that much new

metal exists

that sounds sustainable then at least

for 200 plus episodes oh wow

all right is there any way for um

listeners to follow you

or i guess your nephew oh well you can

always find my nephew

uh on gabbermedia his name is matt noss

he’s wonderful

at matinos on twitter he’s there

m-a-t-t-n-a-a-s

what a delight that guy is

okay yeah

your nephew sounds nice okay i love him

and that’s that’s great to hear uh

all right well i guess we’ll go ahead

weirded out by my nephew love

no no it’s and honestly you know

especially after

brain injury i think having more family

being supportive is

is great it does look like you’re going

to cry but i can’t tell if that’s

part of it it’s part of it

you’re not just crying just thinking

about your nephew i don’t know anymore

okay all right well um

thank you to Dr Mark Budro here for

coming on the podcast

talking about his book with us ha ha

health which

seems like it’s filled with a lot of

unethical practices

that might have been lawful

might be legal wherever he they took

place

but not certainly not ethical

i would i would say uh thank you cameron

um thank you to DJ DYLAN IN DA HOUSE

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