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Jock boys for life introducing your
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discuss fitness and health and how to
incorporate our modern understanding of
science and medicine into our daily
lives but without it being so boring I’m
your host Dr. London smith (.com) I would
like to begin by apologizing to our
listeners we’ve received some feedback
about the excessive amount of technical
medical terminology that I’ve been using
such as to burrow infundibular pathway
and shut up fatty so I will attempt to
simplify my choice of words in the
future here to help with that is our
producer Cameron hi dr. London hi so
when Cameron heard about secret
handshakes he began asking people to
hand there’s over so that he could learn
the secret and Cameron so I don’t I
don’t quite follow that concept like it
well why are they keeping it from me I
guess that’s what I what I don’t what I
don’t get about it is there something
like this these like secret handshakes
going on I’m like I’m not I’m not
involved I guess no one’s asking me to
have a secret handshake okay so you just
want to be a part well I just want to be
lit in on the secret if there’s money to
be made here dr. London
I really need it yeah I I’m sorry so to
clarify a handshake is the act of
shaking someone else’s hand with one’s
own and it’s used as a greeting or to
finalize an agreement and so yes a
secret handshake is just sort of a
personalized one that you make up it
even appears on Jacques Rock podcast
logo actually so I’m not really sure how
you could learn a secret from it but dr.
London dr. London dr. London if I can
get to the bottom of this secret what’s
down there you know what I mean what’s
what’s at the the X that marks the spot
it’s got to be gold right it has to be
well I just I don’t I don’t see how
there could be a secret in it like I
don’t all of this is irrelevant because
I’m not shaking hands right now anyway
right because of the you know the stuff
that’s been going on and going around
and
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you know what I’m talking about
touching people right now because of the
you know the kind of virus that’s been
going around lately so I I know you’re
worried about becoming ill but ya know
that’s why if you shake hands and then
practice hand washing after a handshake
or use antiseptic then that can provoke
a transfer do you see what I mean I get
it but I’m actually I’m actually just
trying to catch it on my own terms you
know what I mean I’m not gonna trust it
from somebody else but that’s why that’s
what I’m eating right now in the podcast
because this thing that’s been going
around I kind of want to catch it kind
of like how you catch chickenpox and you
can never catch it again well and those
thing being of course diabetes I’ve been
really really stressing about it it’s
been in the news a lot lately and I
think the solution is to kind of help my
immune system is to catch it but I don’t
want to catch it from someone else cuz I
don’t trust it I’m gonna catch it on my
own
does that make sense okay well and to
clarify on this so so diabetes is you
know it’s a problem with insulin either
you know production or sensitivity in
cells and people can get it from a
certain lifestyle and becoming
overweight and that kind of thing it’s
not you’re talking about it like it’s a
virus but you’re trying to catch it to
get it over with dr. London and so
actually diabetes usually progressively
worse since you don’t it’s not it’s not
something you can catch and then finish
with then yeah once I’m at once I’m once
it’s over then I won’t have to worry
about it again I’m yeah and declares
trying to do that even a chicken pox
actually it doesn’t go away that’s still
in your system and it’s the same virus
that you know will later cause shingles
I don’t know if I’ve been touching why
have I been touching all of these
chickens
you’re asking me why you have been
touching chickens anytime I stroll past
a chicken coop I always I’m gonna like
try to touch as many chickens as
possible because I thought that was
helping my immune system know what any
of this that’s sort of just unnecessary
exposure I’ve been playing in the mud
I’ve been touching as many chickens as I
possibly can I’ve been eating like hell
and you’re telling me this is all for
naught I don’t I don’t think it is
helping you know I like diet and
exercise and frequent washing frequently
washing your hands those kinds of things
can help you you know and avoiding
handshakes like we established well I
would say for the hand he likes do want
to get sick but just not from another
person that’s crisis yeah
all right well also with us is DJ DYLAN
IN DA HOUSE
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none of this is medical advice is
medical advice
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whose medical advice nope and later
Cameron tells me that we can expect a
special guest so look forward to that
before we move on I would like to dress
a bit of listener feedback so this
listener feedback comes from a piece of
paper that was tied to a brick that
crashed through my window last night
quote when your kids are misbehaving you
got to wrestle them to the ground and
put a saddle on them like you would a
horse yeah that’s how they know that you
own them end quote
first of all we’d like to thank our
listeners for this insightful question
on the jock talk podcast we do love to
hear back from our listeners to answer
your questions there are many approaches
to parenting but saddling a child for
the purpose of displaying ownership is a
fairly atypical one and so I cannot you
know I unfortunately cannot endorse this
method it didn’t crash into your living
room it kind of swung in there I just
wanted to clarify that swung I I wasn’t
looking when it came in so but the
window crashed was my point like it
broke the window and the sound was a
crash and how do you know what it
sounded like
or what it what it was because I
understand the difference between a
crash and a swing that was clear it was
swung in there didn’t crash and here
you’re being dramatic
I you think I’m being dramatic because
it just go on just continue okay well in
any case so we can’t endorse that method
of parenting because it could harm the
child
but once again thank you for your
question and thank you for listening and
now for a tale from the hospital we had
a 75 year old patient who had fallen off
of his horse and bro
his femur he noted that this has
happened before and so anyway after he
fell off his horse he then scooted on
his back for the length of two acres in
order to find help
he developed a an infection post-op but
he ultimately did well while asking if
he has anything in his medical history
that might be relevant you know to this
infection and the post-op issues he
noted that the post-op infection is
similar to when his helicopter was shot
down in Vietnam and monkeys through
feces at him he developed a bad
infection then too and asked if this
could be related to his current
infection I I told him that it was
probably not really I wouldn’t I would
actually say that if that happened to me
almost any infection I got after that
point would probably point back to that
moment right no I mean not necessarily I
feel like once I’ve been attacked by
monkeys I would say most of my life
problems could point back to that well
so in this instance the and with any of
these operations and infections you’re
looking for things that could have
gotten into that wound and so it’s more
of a the problems in the present than in
the past that would be applicable does
that make sense
no dr. London I’m saying if I couldn’t
even get into a six flags I would
probably blame the monkey thing okay
almost everything would have to point
back to that so if you ever had
something traumatic happen to you at one
point you would it not just feel the
burden of that but you would attribute
future any any incident in the future to
that one experience most of those
incidents are going to be infections
let’s be a real knowing my history right
I most of the big events in my life are
infection related I think that’s pretty
clear well but mostly due to your own
actions well that’s neither my own
actions caused by the monkeys from my
past it doesn’t matter who is at fault
here
what I am saying is that most of the
Facebook memory like life achievement
goal things on my Facebook feed most of
them are based on contracting and
getting rid of various infections
whereas a lot of people might have like
their wedding the birth of their child
mine is mostly the foot thing is back
yeah the thing is larger mmm the foot
thing is louder it grew back I cut it
off yeah
the foot thing has its own foot thing
now yeah that one was the foot thing
still has a Twitter account right the
foot thing it’s not really a Twitter
account as much as it is sort of a like
a like a live Journal that he hooked up
to a Twitter account right so the only
thing that it tweets is its posts and
its posts are mostly complaining about
its own foot thing okay so so I guess we
can’t recommend to our listeners to
follow that it sounds like it wouldn’t
be that good experience all that to say
like should I be touching monkeys as I
passed them no no please refrain from
you know touching any wild animals that
you encounter well I mean how wild is it
really if it’s wearing a hat while it
could still be wild even if it wears a
hat you can put a hat on on a lot of
things does that seems that is true
that’s valid alright now for today’s
medical topic atrial myxoma in atrial
myxoma is a benign gelatinous growth
typically pedunculated which means that
it is attached to a sort of stalk or
stem and it is usually arising from the
interatrial septum of the heart in the
region of the fossa ovalis so that is
the upper middle part of the heart on
the wall that separates the two upper
heart chambers it is the most common
primary cardiac neoplasm and neoplasm is
a term for a new and abnormal growth of
tissue
although benign atrial myxoma z’ can
embolize or break off from that stock
leading to metastatic disease or the
atrial myxoma scan cause relative
valvular dysfunction clinically atrial
myxoma z’ proto typically present with
fatigue fever okay that makes sense like
fainting palpitations and a low-pitched
diastole you mentioned relative
dysfunction relative valve uk’s function
that would explain a lot about a lot of
the stuff that’s been going on with my
family if we’re talking about relative
dysfunction if you’re saying that’s a
heart thing that cut that’s causing it
that would make so much sense okay I
should clarify on this point when I use
the term relative here I mean it’s in
relation to the topic that we’re talking
about so it’s it’s dysfunctional
relative to the normal valvular function
does that make sense I mean just like I
remember the time when my dad ran over
my grandmother’s four-wheeler with his
own four-wheeler and kind of a stripe
that that caused our family and thinking
it was hopeless because of my relatives
dysfunction but now knowing that it was
actually a disease all along and it
wasn’t just because he shotguns like a
six pack right I went buck buck crazy
well I I don’t know what a sense and I
wish I knew that before I’m growing a
lot from this podcast dr. Linda thank
you okay well I guess there is some some
benefit in at least empathizing with
their situation even though I can’t say
whether or not it was a heart condition
in any case atrial myxoma is also can
present with a low pitched diastolic
murmur that changes character with
changing body positions and this murmur
is sometimes known as a diastolic plop
treatment
is typically surgical excision are you
winning are you wanting me to make a
joke on plop dr. London are you wanting
me to to riff on load different noises
and different positions or whatever well
being a plop is that is that the goal
here you’re trying to bait me no I
that’s the name commonly used the term
applied to this
my father ran over my uncle’s skateboard
with the four-wheeler after shotgunning
a whiskey bottle and to know that it was
a disease all along and once again I
really can’t say whether or not he had a
heart condition that’s well at this I
mean we know he doesn’t have a heart at
this point I cuz after he passed and
those grave robbers dug him up that was
the first thing they took is they go for
the heart first I guess something was
scooped out of there you mean out of the
grave
well yeah an out of his body cavity huh
okay this sounds like a whole extra
mystery to solve but I feel like we can
just move on from there all right
Cameron you said that we have a guest
today is that right we absolutely do dr.
London all right hello there hey how are
you guys doing hey my name is dr. London
Smith calm this is our producer Cameron
and you’re on the jock doc podcast what
was your name uh I’m really excited to
be here it’s John Smith but hey my
friends call me quarters so just just
call me quarters I’m cleaning quarters
yeah like like nickels dimes and
quarters that’s right like like quarters
it’s okay thanks I I got it it was based
on like all the quarters that I stole
from my mom’s first growing up oh wow so
you’re a you’re a man of loose morals um
I I mean I was uh I don’t know if I
still AM I mean I don’t still quarters
anymore so I mean you just have your
nicknames yeah it was it was something
that I did as a kid and you know and
it’s something you were so known for as
a kid
well yeah I mean I you know you I know
you guys are makai m– you know probably
twice your guys age you you might not be
aware but that you know one point in
history kids were really excited about
getting quarters because it meant they
could go to the arcade and play video
games and so yeah the fact that I always
had quarters kind of stood out but you
were famous for stealing the quarters
yes yes so this was so I I guess I’m
just trying to figure out at what point
did your friend say this is your
nickname now quarters this is because
you’ve stolen so many of your mom’s
quarters I just don’t see that happening
it kind of sounds like you gave yourself
this nickname I I resent that
implication uh you know it was it was it
was absolutely given to me by my friends
it would be happening when we were at
the the video arcade and they would not
have any quarters and they would come up
to me and hold out a dollar bill and say
quarters and and I would give them
quarters alright dr. Ellen can I talk to
you in private real quick yeah yeah it
sounds like yeah we dr. London so first
of all this dude’s a thief I’ve got a
shit ton of quarters in my pocket right
now dr. London oh now I’m really worried
about them yeah well they were jangling
a lot you keep shaking your pants around
to like dancing well yeah I like the
noise that they make yes I it was hard
not to pick up on it incidentally so
we’ve got a we got a thief here as a
guest and he’s a liar he’s trying to
convince us that he didn’t give himself
the nickname quarters when obviously he
would have had to cuz otherwise how
would his friends know that he stole all
these quarters from his mom I am pretty
confused that still is stealing from
your parents is a secretive thing
usually but he must have done it enough
to get the nickname
anyway let’s say and his friends just
thought that was like so awesome so
awesome that they started calling him
that name you know there’s no way that’s
true
alright let’s get back yeah I can’t
remember how we caught this guy on the
okay so um so quarters we can you know
it doesn’t matter how you got your
nickname or whether you had friends IIIi
I mean I absolutely had Fred’s I mean
they would come up to me with these
bills all the time and say quarters
quarters and and I would give them
quarters did you ever think that and
this is just a general question here
were you supposed to make change for
people and was that just a request of
there’s not necessarily a nickname I
mean you’re I did work at the arcade so
yeah I mean so that was part of my job
but still I mean everybody was calling
me quarters all the time I took it as a
nickname they never called me John yeah
did you have a name tag or anything
saying John I mean it was a pretty low
budget place I don’t I don’t think I did
write a long time ago but I no I don’t
think I did and these were your closest
friends well I mean they were they were
friends they were people they were
people I knew from the arcade yeah
colleagues of yours so John I mean you
know we were kids a colleague is kind of
a you know I mean I mean we went some of
us went to the same school mister
quarters I do have to ask why are you
here today
oh well it you know as it happens it
ties back to the video games I I’m here
because I’m hoping to get your help in
producing a new medically related video
game
Oh interesting well I actually had an
idea for like a medically related video
game though I’m all hopefully you’re not
hopefully you’re not stealing my idea I
honestly I mean if you mention it on
this podcast which is being listened to
by I’m sure you know some listeners then
it’s gonna be pretty obvious I couldn’t
just steal it but I would absolutely
give you credit you know somewhere
buried in the game which would be great
exposure for you okay so okay I’ve got a
pretty good idea and that I’m pretty
proud of a mine is called defibrillator
here oh okay
is it like Guitar Hero yeah you use like
a defibrillator peripheral that plugs
into the machine then you take your
friend and then you just kind of shock
the hell out of them you know just like
you just hold them down and just go zoom
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okay I love the idea I love were you
going with it
would this be done to music I mean you
can listen to whatever you want like I
don’t care I don’t have control over
that well I I’m just thinking in terms
of you know there are other games that
are similar to what you’re talking about
are they in that they have instruments
that you play for the video game but
they’re they you know the game plays
music and your objective is to play the
instrument in time and push the right
buttons with the game oh you know see
the objective of this one is to save
your friend’s life so your friend is
about to die because of whatever you
just injected in them or whatever I
haven’t figured that part out but your
friend is on the brink of death your
goal as the you know defibrillator hero
is to save your dying friend that’s
dying before you okay okay I see where
you’re going
so my question on that one are they
dying in real life or just within the
the videogame I would say I mean I would
say both if you’re dying in real life
you are sort of always dying in the
video game – yeah if you die if you die
then you that is definitely like a game
over you’re done with the game I I think
I think that’s a great point I mean in
today’s world you know video game
technology is advancing by leaps and
bounds Virtual Reality is becoming very
prominent I think having a virtual
reality game where you shock your friend
and they experience real electrical
charges across the chest or wherever you
place the are they called paddles in the
game that would be very lifelike and
realistic yeah and I think I think
bringing your friend to the brink of
death even before starting the game to
make the actual goal have real stakes is
sort of the thing that we kind of have
been expecting at a VR you know we want
this to be real life I I kind of meant
it reality and mobile games here’s the
thing of and strategy games it sounds
like what you have to mention RTS is
yeah it sounds like what you’re
describing if you have no actual video
game aspect you’re pretty much just
poisoning your friend and then using a
defibrillator on them and it doesn’t
sound like a game it just sounds like
you know attempted murder
it’s sort of like a multi-faceted
alternate reality game slash augmented
reality game / mobile virtual reality
experience you know I really I respect
your medical experience but I mean it’s
clear that you’re not a video game
player are you he’s not a gamer I I
dabble a little bit I’ve played a few
games but no no dr. London’s not a gamer
he has never once thought of shooting up
a school
never once I don’t understand that how
can you even claim to be a casual gamer
if you haven’t you know ripped off a
prostitute or shot up a school
in a game somewhere yeah yeah I guess
yeah I’d say more of a Nintendo kind of
guy you know something that’s a group
game that you can you can get to know
someone else while you play it’s a fun
group interactive thing um
I mean even those games are extremely
violent I mean even even going back to
the early Nintendo days with like Super
Mario World have you not noticed what
Mario does to all those other characters
in the game I mean he jumps on them and
squishes them Tom Nook is a slave owner
uh Cameron I’m gonna be honest with you
I don’t know that game can you elaborate
from Animal Crossing the sort of uh land
lordy type of guy that you get a loan
from and every single Animal Crossing
game Tom Nook he’s a slave driver huh
yeah I honestly that is one of the games
that I haven’t played so I’m not
familiar but I I do believe you I mean
if you’re borrowing money from someone
in a video game
it’s it’s a well-established video game
rule that money lenders are slave owners
absolutely
so quarters I want to hear a little bit
about your game right okay so the the
game that I’m proposing as a medical
experienced game is something that will
teach about the the benefits of
radiation the premise is that your
character it’s a it’s a first-person
kind of a cross between the first-person
shooter and a role-playing game your
character is a survivor who’s been
living underground for several years
after a nuclear holocaust and he and
it’s it’s it’s it’s referred to as a
safe and so you’ve been living in this
safe for a long time with other people
but I’ve worked out the premise yet for
some reason you leave the safe and you
emerge in a post-apocalyptic wasteland
and there’s radiation everywhere like
everything with all the food all the
drink is contaminate
you know you encounter different people
some of them have been affected by the
radiation and you know and if developed
super strength or like you know
immortality because there’s some
physical side effects but overall I mean
obviously clearly positives and you know
you kind of go around this area helping
the community out I so this game doesn’t
sound all that medical the way you at
least the way you’re describing it here
it sounds like maybe for one thing it
sounds familiar I think if I think I
know this game III don’t know how you
could’ve it’s a completely unique
concept III disagree that it’s not
medical I mean a big feature of the game
would be that you know from in various
places you you might get injured and you
would find things called stimpacks and
they would restore your health so that’s
clearly medical like a stem degree yes
exactly
see dr. Condon well there there is a
game out that’s famous for being sort of
in a post-apocalyptic wasteland those
are referred to as the Fallout games but
even if even I don’t see the similarity
at all well there’s no there’s no little
like blond guy given a thumbs up or
whatever no we absolutely would not have
that well so one of the other aspects of
so radioactivity will cause you know
things like cancer potentially and it’s
maybe like maybe like a larger in some
places you know I mean I mean IIIi think
that I did I mean I I okay you know I’ve
spent some time on the internet reading
about radiation and also reading a more
extensive literature
about what
radiation can do and I mean it’s
well-documented that radiation can
trigger all kinds of beneficial
mutations like super strength or
invisibility or you know I mean just a
number of these things I mean it’s
there’s lots of literature out there
about this there’s a test taste test
ability you’re able to anything you
taste you’re able to pick apart the
ingredients so uh you know I’m not
familiar with that one but I certainly
believe it so I think the literature
that you’re my dad
he can eat any flavor at baskin-robbins
and if you give him you like three or
four guesses he’ll be able to get pretty
close that’s amazing I wish I had a
skill like that I mean that can we put
that in your video game um I I think
yeah I think it would be really great if
the if that would be one of the benefits
from the radiation that the main
character could choose to adopt I mean
that’s good a great part part of the the
medical aspect of this is that you get
to choose your mutations and you know
not everybody might want the same
mutations I mean we don’t want to make
the game you know monotonous and boring
but this is the sort of medical realism
that has been missing in a lot of video
games wouldn’t you say dr. London yeah
well I here’s here’s the issue I see
with it you say there’s a lot of
literature that covers this specific
topic of these effects of radiation I
the only literature that I know of that
is emphatic and documents that kind of
thing is fictional literature like comic
books you know superhero kind of things
I mean they were superheroes yes didn’t
at one time scientists and doctors say
that the earth being round was fictional
thank you before the modern age of
medicine they said the past doctors said
the the earth being ground that’s a
fictional book so how about that and I
would point out that there’s there has
been a tremendous amount of fiction
that has turned out to be based on
reality moby-dick
absolutely and so I mean big whales you
see whales
there are whales out there so who’s to
say that these what you call comic books
which frankly I find dismissive it you
know aren’t actually you know real
literature about the benefits of
radiation or or Oliver Twist right
orphan boy right
I mean orphan boys are real okay and I
should clarify a point here that just
because they are you know from a work of
fiction doesn’t mean that there are
aspects within that work of fiction that
are you know based on reality
there are orphan boys in real life if we
go back to the super do they want more
and sometimes orphan boys are hungry for
more
okay so I it sounds like we’re all on
the same page here well I just want to
clarify one point because this does seem
to be something you’re skipping over
here is that just because aspects are
based in reality doesn’t mean that some
of these other parts like for instance
the effects of radiation on a human body
some of those parts are taken to
exaggerations so instead of in the
comics instead of causing cancer they
will often cause you know superpowers
you’re like super cancer right or
spider-strength
or shooting webs out of your wrist sir I
mean spider-strength cancer you’ve got
super-strength cancer you’ve you’ve got
the kind of stretchy ability you know
cancer right x-ray vision cancer
invisibility cancer all of those cancers
right but III okay so I think dr. London
I think I get what you’re saying
one of the challenges in dealing with
some works of fiction or what we call
fiction is that they haven’t happened
yet even though you know a lot of things
have from fiction have happened which i
think is prettiest you know good is a
pretty solid establishment that
you know fiction becomes reality I I
think what your objection here is though
is that it’s sense it’s not actually
been proven yet even though it will be
that maybe you want something a little
bit more historically established
something that we can point and it say
yep that was in the past that really
happened would that be more to your line
of thinking as one of the game producers
sure and I should clarify if it’s just a
game you know then it’s fine it’s just
if we’re gonna call it you know
something that teaches us medicine then
we can’t you know it has to be factual
and evidence-based well I know the whole
point here is to create a medical game
yeah and and part of this Agreement that
I this sort of slipped my mind I forgot
to ask you about it earlier dr. Londe is
that you are going to be on the cover of
this game giving a thumbs up saying I
approve of everything in this game and
everything this game is real okay right
and also you can play smarter than your
doctor that’s one of the things you’re
gonna say to endorse it I’m sorry
quarters did you just say that I have to
dye my hair blonde for that yeah and and
you know dye your hair blonde give that
big thumbs up right oh you know that
sounds a lot like the logo for that that
other game that seems very similar and
you’re just you know that’s clearly a
cartoony character we’re talking about a
real photo of a real person real
feel–it photo of a real person with a
few Photoshop effects on top of it that
make you look like maybe like a drawing
and you’re gonna say everything in this
game is medically accurate i stake my
career on it I you know Cameron I’m
gonna have to give you credits for the
arts and graphics now too so well done
oh thank you well quarters back to what
you were saying let’s hear about this
other hopefully it’s maybe more
medically relevant game you said
something historical right so okay so
another way we could go with this so
again you know we want this to be an
interactive game so I’m still thinking
first-person four
perspective but let’s set it in the past
let’s say that you are a person who is
wandering around a large expansive
historical timeframe where you know like
the there’s really not much technology
you know you might see windmills you’ve
got horse and carts you know certainly
like blacksmithing and such and but you
know I mean but then then this is a time
period where there’s still magic and so
you travel around this land and you meet
a bunch of different people and it turns
out that your character is to send it is
it has something called Griffin born
which means he’s able to speak the
language of Griffin’s and uses this
power to sort of fight off an invasion
of Griffin’s but you know where the
medical part of it comes in is that he
would use like bandages to heal wounds
whenever he gets injured you know all
kinds of opportunities to heal oneself
because of the you know the damage that
would be taken okay so so here’s the
issue I see with that game is that it
doesn’t really sound medical at all
except for the very small point which is
present in a lot of games as far as I’m
aware where they use bandages to heal
themselves because in these games
characters get heard they get hurt I you
know what I forgot to mention probably
the most important point because of
course historically when we still had
magic a lot of the magic was used for
healing okay well in this this doesn’t
help us that much because you know magic
is not a regular part of medicine today
regular part of your practice because
you have not learned it you know you’ve
not trained in that aspect of health and
medicine right dr. London well in our
you know Western American you know
evidence-based medicine we don’t really
use magic don’t really study that so
much III
I’m I’m really shocked I’m so sorry
Horner’s just the blatant racism in that
that just that whole Western sorry that
all western-centric like you’re
dismissing entire cultures you know
tremendous senses of spirituality and
magic in their history and and you’re
all about this whole western-centric I
mean wow okay and I guess I should
clarify there that this is since you’re
appealing to to me as a medical
practitioner I’m trying to just you know
tell you what context I’m looking at it
from so you could probably you can maybe
get an endorsement from say witch doctor
or you know someone at least you’re
acknowledging that witches or doctors
I appreciate that much so I’ll give you
some credit for that but you don’t think
mages are doctors to dr. London
I don’t regularly encounter mages but if
they don’t have you know a doctor it
horse you so you don’t get out of your
little rich person bubble duty I mean
seriously that the privilege on this one
I camera and III I don’t I don’t I am so
sorry it’s just his elitist snobbery I
ate it’s constantly like this III think
I think we need to move past it and just
deal with what we got here okay so how
can we assist you in making this game a
reality and endorsing it fully well I
mean it’s it sounds to me that like dr.
London has another problem with my ideas
but you know so I have others but I mean
that the the core thing we’re looking
for here right now is a basically
funding for project development and
that’s where we were you know since
we’re doing a medically based game you
know we were really hoping that you know
this very well-to-do elitist doctor with
his extensive you know debit card
could you know fund the project and and
and be a contributor to some of the
ideas and I am here to tell you today
quarters I’m very excited for this
partnership we not only are going to
help fund your game by donating one
dollar per pixel in the game but we are
also going to produce it under our own
company that is more than I was hoping
for but I am I am very happy to accept
that offer this is I think this is going
to be an exciting project okay okay
Cameron don’t don’t take out the
contract now we want to talk about this
with lawyers and things you just go
ahead and sign here and actually I don’t
put any number you won this box just how
are you okay so let me see here I look I
don’t want to
I can’t medically endorsed this direct
access dr. London’s garage it says right
there yeah I think which is great we
need a place for the developers to sort
of you know we we need a new workspace
to be able to get them all in with their
computers I mean we’ll probably be
working like 18-hour days and just
sleeping right there where we work but
yeah I think 25 million with a with a
with an option for another 10 okay sweet
over budget okay let me let me talk with
my with with with my doctor and let me
let me see if we can negotiate this deal
dr. London this is a steel we have to
take this off this is no deal zero
chance dr. Linda we have to take this 25
mil someone else is gonna jump on this
did you hear his medical ideas i we’re
gonna be teaching people medicine
through ways that they actually care
about magic and stuff and once again and
that game he’s describing sounds a lot
like skyrim which is a very poppy
game that already exists yeah but with
none of the medical expertise that
you’re gonna be bringing to the table
yeah exam more than the 25 million it
sounds like my medical expertise will
not be brought to the table it sounds
like he already decided how much he’s
gonna use buddy Hey okay I see what
you’re worried about now you’re worried
that you’re not involved enough but
you’re gonna be on the cover
no one’s gonna take that away from you
that’s not involved and uh all right
let’s raise okay let’s raise the price
to 30 no let’s bring it to them okay
quarters quarters my man Hey
ooh you drive a hard bargain but I’m
gonna I’m gonna I’m gonna have to offer
you kind of give you a counteroffer here
holy okay we’re we’re willing to go to
30 million okay no I I’m gonna need to
think about that okay okay
we can finish now I think we’ve I think
we’ve got enough here for I think we’ve
gotten all the medical knowledge that
we’ll get out of you know our guest
quarters here I you know I I tell you
what Cameron you drive a hard bargain
you really do but I think the value that
you’re gonna bring to the project
Cameron as the artistic with the
artistic credits and also you know
creative contributions you’ve already
made I I think that’s gonna be well
worth it so even even though dr.
London’s you know it might be a little
bit sketchy on this I think we can work
with it we can work with we can make it
work all right we can make it work ah
okay well I think that’s that’s a good
enough time to call it all right well
thank you to our guest quarters for
being on the show today pleasure to be
here and I’m looking forward to working
with you both all right
mainly mainly with Cameron absolutely
all right and uh is there any way that
papel that’s me gaming buddy
now I got to put you on sound effects
now I got to put you on sound effects
yes is there any way that listeners can
reach you or follow you after this yes
that’s quarters at completely not a
copycat game.com again that’s quarters
at completely not a copycat game.com
okay all right well thank you two
quarters for being on the show today
thank you to Cameron as well our
producer yo-yo thank you to dude you
doing the hose yeah you use like a
defibrillator for in fuel that plugs
into the machine then you take your
friend
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